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Nebulosa · 16-11-2007, 03:02

The pure breed certificat, is gived is some countries for dogs who haven't pedigree but are tipical in appearence.
That is made because with the wars, imigrants and too with the unknowledge of the people in the fields, some new bloodline of oficial FCI breeds can be found lost.
We cannot never forgot that some breeds, different of the CzW only is now breed because the ability to work, this made the man select a dog with some caracteristic's who will help such dog to work, these dogs, that was selected by that, normally wasn't pass by one selection seeing the bloodline, with genealogy and seeing being a breed futurelly, these breeds was selected only seeing their working caracteristics.
Different of the CzW, some of these breeds really need bloodlines, who really can be lost with their history.
Different of the CzW... breed wich we know the dogs that give life for the breed, that start the breeds, the F1 as Kazan.
Different of the CzW, breed that was selected and that we know the genealogy since the start.
Breed that when go out for other breeders, continue to pass for one selection, have their pedigree by the club even being recognized by the FCI.
Really, the CzW need the open bloodline book?
I think that no... that will only down the quality of the dogs, will only open the oportunity for hybrids and mix enter in the breed as false bloodline, wich will bring some new problems for the breed as new illness uncommon for the breed.
Why the the Slovak and Czech club not try close the bloodline book by the FCI?
I mean, why they not ask for FCI not allow the entrance of new dogs without pedigree as pure breed?!

We all know that normally the judges aren't able to judge the breed in dog shows ( of course, I not talk here of the specialists, but principally of the all-rounders judges), and that is they who judge the dogs for give or not the pure-breed certificat in some countries.
That is very serious and means that if today I do a cross betwen GSD and grey wolf, and leave for be judge when have the coat color of the CzW, this mix will receive the pure breed certificat and will can produce animals with pedigree.

If is for enter a new blood-line in the breed, for me, at least will be correct if this be done by one judgement comite in the countries of origine with at leat 10 well know breeders and judges.

16-11-2007, 03:02	#118
Nebulosa Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rio Grande do Sul Posts: 1,334	The pure breed certificat, is gived is some countries for dogs who haven't pedigree but are tipical in appearence. That is made because with the wars, imigrants and too with the unknowledge of the people in the fields, some new bloodline of oficial FCI breeds can be found lost. We cannot never forgot that some breeds, different of the CzW only is now breed because the ability to work, this made the man select a dog with some caracteristic's who will help such dog to work, these dogs, that was selected by that, normally wasn't pass by one selection seeing the bloodline, with genealogy and seeing being a breed futurelly, these breeds was selected only seeing their working caracteristics. Different of the CzW, some of these breeds really need bloodlines, who really can be lost with their history. Different of the CzW... breed wich we know the dogs that give life for the breed, that start the breeds, the F1 as Kazan. Different of the CzW, breed that was selected and that we know the genealogy since the start. Breed that when go out for other breeders, continue to pass for one selection, have their pedigree by the club even being recognized by the FCI. Really, the CzW need the open bloodline book? I think that no... that will only down the quality of the dogs, will only open the oportunity for hybrids and mix enter in the breed as false bloodline, wich will bring some new problems for the breed as new illness uncommon for the breed. Why the the Slovak and Czech club not try close the bloodline book by the FCI? I mean, why they not ask for FCI not allow the entrance of new dogs without pedigree as pure breed?! We all know that normally the judges aren't able to judge the breed in dog shows ( of course, I not talk here of the specialists, but principally of the all-rounders judges), and that is they who judge the dogs for give or not the pure-breed certificat in some countries. That is very serious and means that if today I do a cross betwen GSD and grey wolf, and leave for be judge when have the coat color of the CzW, this mix will receive the pure breed certificat and will can produce animals with pedigree. If is for enter a new blood-line in the breed, for me, at least will be correct if this be done by one judgement comite in the countries of origine with at leat 10 well know breeders and judges.