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18-12-2007, 00:15 | #81 | |
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18-12-2007, 00:24 | #83 |
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So you give a piece of information in private mail, well I am curious.
And once again I am not for breeders who do not threat their dogs well. And yes animals should be threated well, but if I was witness to what you said you were, I have done everything in my power to stop it directly and not several years later. And you can state time after time that you need evidence and make sure that the authorities won't kill the dogs, but if a animal is in need as you said it needs help directly. |
18-12-2007, 00:34 | #84 |
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What I was saying is that if people who took a dog of this breed, not normally think they have such a strong breed. So they can not cope with the breed themselves. They made the wrong choice by taking such a dog and were more better to have another dog like a golden retriever or something. If you choose for a czech you need to know enough of the dog to cope with it. People do not often know that. By that time the dogs always can go back to her. So this has nothing to do with socialise the pups. They most socialise when they are with their new owner, if they can cope with the dog no problems at all, as I can see with the two dogs my friend has from this breeder.
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18-12-2007, 11:03 | #85 | |
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Not to mention, that nobody should sell CSW to owner, who cannot cope. Sure, mistakes happen and we cannot always guess, what will happen in future, but mass producers and puppy mills are known to sell to anyone to make profit, ignoring the welfare of the pups. Saying that the pup can always go back, if things don´t work, is rather horrible. Sure, it is nice if it can, but it should be only in critical situations, not as a rule. Such master changes are terrible for such inteligent dog as CSW. |
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18-12-2007, 11:07 | #86 | |
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18-12-2007, 21:45 | #87 | |
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I think that mw. Keizer is not up to mass production to sell CWS to make a profit. Every money she get from selling a CWS is always going back in to the kennel. And if she was, than there will be not as many dogs as Paul let believe us in her kennel. |
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18-12-2007, 22:44 | #88 | |
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-If dog comes back to me, i will go to see mirror. IT WAS MY FAULT APPRAISAL, i thought, new owner would be good enough- it wasn't. Next time i should be more careful, cause, as Mirka said, these dogs are not for homechanging, if any dog is. And i must say, in Finland is more "wrong owners" for this breed, because of our dog culture, than in middle of Europe. (comparing amount of CsV;s we have momentally in Finland, in problems, we already have here, unfortunatelly) -Suski
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18-12-2007, 23:59 | #89 | ||
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Are you kidding? So you say, that she keeps 119 dogs in kennels built for 49 for the love of the dogs? Sorry, but I don´t believe it, even if there was actually less than 119 skinny dogs. Even owning 49 dogs for me and breeding on them is not for me breeding for love, care, health and improvement of the breed, but for money. In this I agree totally with what Ina and Annomon said here. |
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19-12-2007, 00:22 | #91 |
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Mirkawolf, please read my message also carefully, because I did not say:
- that the new owners can easily cope with a puppy I said that a pup will not give the main problem As I also did not say: - So you say, that she keeps 119 dogs in kennels built for 49 for the love of the dogs? This is wat I have said: I think that mw. Keizer is not up to mass production to sell CWS to make a profit. Every money she get from selling a CWS is always going back in to the kennel. And if she was, than there will be not as many dogs as Paul let believe us in her kennel. |
19-12-2007, 00:26 | #92 |
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Joyce, I´ve read you very carefully and that´s why I said what I said. And even after your last post, I don´t mean to change a word on what I´ve said.
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19-12-2007, 08:42 | #93 | |
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Out of my personal experiences does what you write make things worse and Paul´s story more reliable. And she needs money for herself too, so there is an easy way to find out if she produces puppies for a living. Maybe somebody here who seems to know her well can tell us what job she has to make up for her own needs, her profession shouldn´t be a personal secret. Ina |
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19-12-2007, 22:45 | #94 |
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No breeder is just a breeder for hobby. You always get money from selling a dog with a pedigree. It depends only what you do with the money.
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19-12-2007, 23:13 | #95 |
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When 49 or 119 dogs living in kennel not in house like house animal, i thinks this is't loving animal, but producent from money.
loving animal living with hes family in house not in kennel and see people when eating or have puppies. one american breeder and judge say "good family and good breeders and owners CANN thake hes love and care only from 5 dogs, if dogs is moore owner not have thime from each dogs. " |
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20-12-2007, 02:02 | #97 | |
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But it still does not say anything over the love for your dogs. Even if you are a breeder for money (which in my opinion is every breeder, otherwise you only have dogs for your hobby and does not sell any pup which is born in your litter) you still love every dog I'm sure! |
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20-12-2007, 05:37 | #98 |
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... And there is a huge different, if you are working outside home for 8 hours, or if you are not. If not, you could have from 8 to 10 hours more time to your dogs, so i think, amount of dogs is not possible count on "american style", always have to look things on both sides.
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20-12-2007, 09:59 | #99 | |
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If you have a lot of dogs and don´t bother to take foreign studs, never go to bonitations, to clubshows in other countries and all the stuff that helps you to find the best pairings but most puppy-buyers don´t care for, you can earn money with several litters a year. Especially because several breeders out of the country of origin and most puppy-buyers don´t realize what´s going on. You will sooner or later have ugly dogs that don´t fit the standart and depending on the genetic facts of the parents you always use they may have dysplasia quite often, but who cares. Ina |
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